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Throwback Thursday: why the Sony a7R II’s biggest improvement went under the radar

The arrival of BSI CMOS technology in Sony’s high-res full-framer didn’t necessarily mean what people expected.

A Sony a7R II camera sits on a bench in the afternoon sunCarey Rose

The Sony a7R II was the company’s fourth full-frame Alpha-series camera, coming less than two years after it unveiled the first full-frame mirrorless cameras, the original a7 and a7R.

2015’s Mark Two brought a host of improvements, not least the addition of in-body image stabilization and on-sensor phase detection, both of which had been absent from the original. It was also among the first ILCs to shoot 4K video, though this was over a year after Panasonic’s GH4, which got there first.

But it’s another of its features than made us want to feature it in Throwback Thursday: it was among the first large sensor cameras to use a BSI CMOS sensor. Not the first: that credit belongs to the short-lived Samsung NX1, but the first full-frame example and one from which, unlike the Samsung, other cameras followed.

Back-side illuminated sensors weren’t a new concept

Back-side illuminated sensors weren’t a new concept: Sony’s Semiconductor division had announced its first “Exmor R”-branded sensors some seven years earlier and they’d started to appear in compacts in 2009. So why, with all the promise of sensors with improved image quality, nearly twofold increases in sensitivity and lower noise, did this technology not arrive in large sensors sooner?

The simple answer was that there was less need. Even as Exmor R was being announced, Sony told us that its advantages would mainly be a benefit in small sensors with small pixels in which the circuitry makes up a large proportion of each pixel. In larger sensors, the circuitry interferes less and microlenses could direct light to the photosensitive region very effectively. This technology wouldn’t have such a big impact in larger sensors, we were told.

Sure enough, if we look back at the performance of the a7R II’s sensor, vs that of the original a7R, we don’t see much of a difference, until you get to very high ISO settings. And, as it turns out, much of that difference isn’t so much from the adoption of BSI technology as the move to a dual conversion gain design.

The main advantage of a BSI sensor in the a7R II wasn’t so much about the proportion of the pixel that was light sensitive (as played such a big role in the compact camera sensors) but in the fact that the light-sensitive region was right at the front of the silicon.

Putting the light-sensitive part of the pixel nearer the surface improves the acceptance angle of the pixel

Putting the light-sensitive part of the pixel nearer the surface improves the acceptance angle of the pixel: how extreme an angle the pixel can receive light from. This helped to mitigate the problem that Leica had tried to address with offset microlenses towards the corners of the sensor: making sure that the far corners of the sensor could capture light arriving at awkward approach angles.

This is less critical in APS-C cameras, as the lens is typically mounted a similar distance from the sensor but its corners aren’t so distant from its center. This is likely to be why, other than the Samsung, it would be another three years before BSI technology appeared in an APS-C camera, and even then with what was primarily a speed, rather than low-light benefit.

Sony’s a7R II was a big step forward for Sony’s full-frame lineup, but perhaps its most significant improvement wasn’t necessarily well appreciated at the time.

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About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Leica’s F1 edition Q3 43 comes with carbon fiber, red accents and a race-inspired color mode

Leica’s Q3 43 F1 Edition drops the starting flag on a licensing partnership with the race series.

Leica Q3 43 F1 edition camera with large lens, carbon-fiber grip, and red shutter button on a white background.Leica

Leica has announced a Formula One-branded special edition of the Q3 43. The special edition marks the start of a licensing partnership between the two brands. One that they say embodies their “shared values: precision, teamwork and
craftsmanship.”

The $9950 Q3 43 F1 edition will come with a carbon fiber version of the Q3-series wireless charging accessory grip, along with a soft release with carbon weave and a carbon fibre thumb rest, clipped into the hotshoe. The body features a “Microvelour” coating, to evoke the steering wheel of a Formula 1 car. The camera’s top plate and lens cap feature the current F1 logo.

Leica Q3 43 F1 edition camera with carbon-fiber accents, red controls, and a large lens on a white background.Leica

The soft-touch shutter button and some of the camera’s shutter buttons have red accents to mimic the buttons on a modern F1 car’s steering wheel. The camera also comes with a rope-style camera strap with F1 branding.

In most other regards, the camera will behave like a standard Q3 43 (to which we gave our Gold award, when we reviewed it), but with the addition of an exclusive “Formula One” color mode. Leica says the F1 Look provides: “a rendering that complements the world of motorsport. Higher contrast and richer saturation capture the atmosphere of the racetrack and paddock in the final image.”

Leica Q3 43 F1 edition camera with attached lens, top view, featuring red accents and carbon-fiber control details on a white background.Leica

There are some cynics who might say that Formula One isn’t what it once was. And that, for all its shows of impressive engineering, has become an exclusive pursuit, entirely disconnected from the rest of automotive, and from its origins in which the skill of talented individuals overcame everything, delivering memorable moments seen the world over. But, if nothing else, it knows the power of branding.

Leica’s press release doesn’t reveal how many Q3 43 F1 Edition models will be made but, as ever with special editions, we look forward to seeing them come up for auction, above their original list prices, in a few years’ time.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Throwback Thursday: Fujifilm’s SuperCCD EXR didn’t take off, but its legacy might live on in your pocket

For Throwback Thursday we look at the Fujifilm F200 EXR, an overlooked compact whose ideas live on in modern smartphones

Three-quarter view of the Fujifilm F200 EXRRichard Butler

Launched in February 2009, the Fujifilm F200 EXR was an update to Fujifilm’s popular “F” series of large(r than typical) sensor compacts. It had a 28-140mm equivalent zoom lens in front of a Type 1/1.6 (8x6mm) that was around 65% larger than most compacts of the day.

But it’s the specifics of that sensor that make it interesting. The F200 EXR was the first instance of what proved to be the final iteration of Fujifilm’s Super CCD concept.

Diagram showing the layout of a conventional Bayer color filter array with the distance between blue-sampling pixels highlighted
Diagram of a Bayer filter, highlighting the distance between neighboring blue-sensitive pixels
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Diagram showing the layout of a the SuperCCD EXR color filter array with the distance between pairs of blue-sampling pixels highlighted
Diagram of the SuperCCD EXR layout, highlighting the distance between neighboring blue-sensitive pairs
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Previous versions of the Super CCD concept had essentially rotated the standard Bayer filter pattern by 45 degrees: exploiting the fact that the standard Bayer layout has better resolution capture along diagonal axes than along its vertical or horizontals. Later versions partially masked some pixels to mean that they captured less light during a given exposure and hence didn’t clip when the larger pixels did, allowing better highlight capture.

SuperCCD EXR expanded on both of these concepts. It continued to use the rotated Bayer pattern idea but this time re-arranged to put pairs of same-colored filters next to one another. This means you have pairs of adjacent pixels whose information can be easily combined. This, in turn, let Fujifilm offer three distinct modes:

  • High Resolution (HR) mode – This would render a 12MP image using all the pixels
  • High Sensitivity (SN) mode – This combined the output of pairs adjacent pixels in low light, to give 6MP images with improved signal-to-noise ratio
  • Dynamic Range (DR) mode – This stopped the exposure early for alternate lines of pixels, meaning they were less prone to clipping. Adjacent pairs of bright and darker exposures were combined to give a 6MP image with better highlight retention.

Sound familiar? Because those three modes are essentially the three ways in which Quad Bayer and TetraCell sensors are used in modern smartphones. These have an oversized Bayer pattern (the same R,G,B,G pattern but expanded so that each color covers four photosites), rather than a rotated version. But they end up with sets of adjacent pixels that sample the same color. This means they’re able to pixel-bin for improved performance in low light or expose alternate lines of their sensors for different periods of time, then combine the result.

So, even though the SuperCCD concept was eventually abandoned, some of the ideas in introduced are at the heart of many of the images from today’s most popular smartphones. Even if the user isn’t necessarily aware of that.

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About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Getty Images going private, following collapse of ShutterStock deal and rise of AI

Editorial and stock photo agency will continue as usual, while Getty family and Koch investment company take full ownership

Getty Images wordmark on a white backgroundGettyImages

Getty Images has said it plans to go through the Chapter 11 bankruptcy process as a step to being taken private by members of the Getty family and Koch Inc’s investment arm, who will together invest up to $533M in the business.

“Under the Plan, vendors will be unaffected and paid in full in the ordinary course of business,” the company said: “There is no anticipated impact on content contributors, partners, customers, or employees across the Company’s worldwide network.”

The stock image library had given up on its attempts to buy rival ShutterStock after the UK competition body forced revisions to the deal. The heavily indebted company has now been delisted from the New York Stock Exchange and its two largest shareholders say they’ve developed a plan to take the company private.

Although the company said it expects a reduction in revenue from its iStock division, “due to reduced eCommerce
demand,” it said it still expects to see growth in its editorial business that provides images to news outlets.

This plan, if approved by the remaining creditors, will be implemented via a “prepackaged” Chapter 11 bankruptcy: a mechanism by which a company can be significantly reorganized, overseen by a bankruptcy court but under the control of the existing owners, in order to remain as a going concern. Some existing lenders have agreed to write-down and restructure some of the company’s debts as part of the process, and the company confirmed “the requisite majority of creditors have committed to vote in favor of the plan.”

It says the restructuring process should be complete by the end of the year.

News agency (and competitor) Reuters reports that competition from AI-generated imagery and heavy debt have played a role in the move. It highlighted that the company’s total debt was around $2.1B at the end of June, whereas its market valuation had slipped to just under $21M when markets closed last Friday. The company’s revenue estimate for 2026 is $920M.

In an accompanying financial update, Getty Images said it had spent around $105M on the failed ShutterStock acquisition, along with $17M in ongoing costs relating to its copyright infringement cases against Stability AI, which it accuses of using its images to train an image generation model.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Tamron’s 16-50mm F2.8 is a fast, sub-$550 kit lens replacement for every APS-C system

Fast new lens adds a wider alternative to Sigma or Tamron’s 17-70mm VS, while less expensive than own-brand optics.

Black Tamron 16-50mm camera lens with ribbed zoom rings on a gray surface.Richard Butler

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Tamron has announced the 16-50mm F2.8, a fast standard zoom for all the most popular APS-C mirrorless mounts.

The compact, unstabilized lens arrives in the lineup alongside the existing 17-70mm F2.8 Di III-A VC RXD and will be available for Canon RF, Fujifilm X, Sony E and Nikon Z mounts. This makes it one of the few instances of a lens Nikon has lisenced that competes directly with one of its own lenses.

Black Tamron camera lens with hood and detached lens cap on a gray surface.Richard Butler

Elsewhere, the 16-50mm offers a wider alternative to Sigma’s 18-50mm F2.8 and, while it’s physically longer, it takes the same 55mm diameter filter.

The lens delivers a 24-75mm equivalent range on Sony, Fujifilm and Nikon bodes, or a 26-80mm range on Canon RF bodies, making it a useful fast everyday lens as a kit zoom replacement.

At 80mm (3.2″) long and with a diameter of a little over 64mm (2.5″) maximum diameter, it is around half the volume of the stabilized 17-70mm F2.8 VC. And with a weight of 305g (10.8oz), it’s 42% lighter. It’s only 4% longer than the Sigma 18-50mm in their retracted states and around 5% heavier, despite covering an appreciably wider range.

Tamron 16-50mm camera lens beside a Deschutes Black Butte non-alcoholic beer can.Richard Butler

The new lens features 14 elements in 10 groups, these include one LD low-dispersion element, two molded glass aspherics and two hybrid aspherical lenses. It can focus as close as 15cm (6″) at wide angle, giving 0.22x magnification. Its 7 aperture blade design is the main area you can see costs being cut, vs the 9 blades on the more expensive 17-70mm.

Sadly, we’ve not had a chance to shoot with the 16-50mm yet, but we hope to in the coming weeks.

Black Tamron 16-50mm camera lens on a gray surface.Richard Butler

The Tamron 16-50mm F2.8 A benefits from the company’s simplified naming system, with “A” indicating that it’s for APS-C and a code number (B091) to distinguish it from any future lenses with similar specs. The Canon, Sony and Nikon versions include a USB-C port, to allow firmware updates. We’re told this is not present on the X-mount version.

The 16-50mm F2.8 will arrive for Sony E-mount and Canon RF users in late October, with Fujifilm X following a month later and Nikon Z hitting the shelves just before the end of the year. It will sell with a list price of $529 for the Sony E and Fujifilm X versions and $549 for Canon and Nikon users. These are at least $170 less expensive than the larger, stabilized 17-70mm F2.8 VC will set you back.

It’s also significantly less than the camera makers’ own-brand 16-50-something F2.8s, which range from $900 for the Nikon 16-50mm F2.8 VR to $1700 for Sony’s 16-55mm F2.8 G.

Side view of Tamron 16-50mm F2.8 A lensTamron

Tamron 16-50mm F2.8 A

The Tamron 16-50mm F2.8 is a fast, unstabilized standard zoom for APS-C mirrorless cameras. Its compact dimensions and usefully wide 16mm starting point make it an interesting option to replace the kit zoom on a lot of APS-C cameras, delivering a classic 24-75mm equiv range for most users.
About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Canon Camera Connect app: how well does it work?

We explored Canon’s connectivity app on both iOS and Android, to see how it behaves

Canon PowerShot V1 compact camera with flip-out screen showing the Smartphone connection menu screenRichard Butler

Easy smartphone connection is one of the most asked-for features we hear when talk to people about cameras, so we thought we’d investigate the current state of all the brands’ apps. Beyond a few frustrations, we found Canon’s Camera Connect to be one of the better options, at least with the recent cameras we had available to test.

Getting started

Before you can even use Canon’s Camera Connect app, you need to create a “Canon ID” using an e-mail address and password and log-in, which can be frustrating: it’s not entirely clear what benefit there is to the user of this. The app will also regularly ask you if you wish to register your camera with your Canon ID and will then remind you that you can do so, even if you say No. There’s no ‘do not show this message again’ option.

Camera menu screen with “Add a device to connect to” highlighted in purple.Richard Butler

To first connect the camera, you need to select your camera model from the app’s list of available models. This helps, in that it means the app should be able to guide you through the appropriate workflow for your camera model. 

Connecting the relatively recent PowerShot V1 to an Android phone was a case of using the displayed QR to download the app then starting the pairing process from the camera. With the app open and the camera trying to establish a connection, a pop-up box with the camera’s ID appeared on the app, letting me confirm Bluetooth pairing. I then had to confirm on the camera, too, then was good to go.

Bluetooth pairing dialog showing detected camera EOSR8m2_F022BD with Cancel button.
Open the app and initiate the pairing process from the camera and your camera’s ID should pop up on the app.
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Canon EOS R8 camera connected in a mobile app home screen.
Once paired, the app’s homescreen gives you the option to import images or engage live view shooting.
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Once the two devices were paired, it was just a case of opening the app and waiting for a bluetooth connection to be established. As soon as the bluetooth icon lights up in the app, you get the choice of importing images from the camera or to engage live view remote shooting. 

Wi-Fi connectivity

Selecting either of these options tells the camera to turn its Wi-Fi on, and after a few moments the phone asks permission to connect to the Wi-Fi network the camera has established. Click ‘Connect’ and it establishes a connection fairly quickly.

Android dialog in Camera Connect app asking to connect to Canon EOSR8m2 temporary Wi‑Fi network.
The Android app will ask your permission to connect to the camera’s Wi-Fi network, when you’re first pairing them.
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iPhone screen showing a Canon Camera Connect Wi‑Fi join prompt for EOSR8m2-876_Canon0A.
The iOS version of the app asks for permission to connect to the camera’s Wi-Fi network every time you re-establish a connection.
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On iOS you have to approve the network connection each time you re-establish a camera-to-phone Wi-Fi connection, whereas Android is happy to trust it, once you’ve given it permission the first time.

Photo gallery grid showing city scenes, beer glasses, a woman, and Big Ben thumbnails dated Apr 25, 2022.
sThe Images on camera option shows all the images on your camera’s storage card, and lets you filter by date or file type. The Apple version of the app lets you download JPEGs, HEIFs or Raws. The Android version is JPEG only.
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The “Imaged on camera” option, once the Wi-Fi connection has been established, shows all the images currently on the camera’s card. On Android, you can only import JPEGs, and the camera will generate a JPEG if you try to import a Raw file. On iOS, the app is happy to transfer JPEG, HEIFs or Raws, probably because all three file types are supported by Apple’s operating system, so it knows what to do with the files. If you try to import an HDR HEIFs using the Android app it’ll tell you you have to manually convert the HEIF to a JPEG (and drop down to SDR) on the camera, first.

Remote live view shooting

Engaging remote live view shooting is a similar process: pressing the button in the app initiates a Wi-Fi connection that you’ll need to approve each time on the iOS version. You’re then given a live feed from the camera with an interface that lets you control a lot of the camera’s settings.

Camera app view of houses on a rainy residential street with a utility pole in the foreground.Richard Butler

You can adjust exposure settings, drive mode, AF mode, white balance and so forth. You can’t change exposure mode, though or, at least, not on a camera whether that’s set using a physical dial. You don’t get fine-grained control like WB fine tune and some functions can be greyed-out for reasons that aren’t obvious.

Camera app viewfinder showing a zoomed in viewRichard Butler

Although not enabled by default, you can set the app to let you double-tap to zoom in the live view display to the area around the AF point. With this done, the manual focus function that lets you drive the focus forward or backward with three degrees of subtlety becomes much more useful, though the zoom only punches in to the 5x level of zoom, not the really fine 10x option you can get on the camera’s rear screen.

Camera app settings overlay with toggles over a live view of a house.Richard Butler

Taking photos in live view shooting mode does not transfer them to the camera: you’ll need to leave the live view shooting option and switch back to the “Images on camera” function. You can review your images and even give them a rating, but that’s it.

Further functions

Away from the App’s Home tab is another called “Functions,” which will show the other modes and functions available with whichever camera you currently have connected.

Canon camera connected in a mobile app home screen with function tiles and disconnect button.Richard Butler

So, for example, most cameras have an Auto Transfer option, that lets you automatically send images from your camera to your phone, as you take them. With this function you have the choice of whether to downsize the files (to 1MB 1620 x 1080px files) before transfer and the option to remove location data from the transferred images.

This mode only continues to function while a Wi-Fi connection is maintained and the Auto Transfer function is still active in the app. Auto Transfer can’t be used in conjuction with the live view shooting mode, frustratingly. Auto Transfer can’t send Raws and won’t send HDR PQ HEIFs, either.

Also in the Functions tab are a ‘Bluetooth remote control’ function, an option to share the smartphone’s location data with the camera, to add it to images as you shoot them, and the ability to send your phone’s date and time to the camera, with the option to update these settings every time you reconnect the app. This last feature sounds especially useful when traveling across time zones.

Camera date/time settings screen with automatic setting toggle, manual date and time fields, area, and daylight saving time switch.
You can share your phone’s time and date to your phone. Handy for travel
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Smartphone app screen showing location information settings with GPS being sent to the camera.
You can also share your phone’s location info to your camera, which it then embeds in the EXIF
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There’s also the option to set your camera up to connect to local Wi-Fi networks, which then lets you engage its Cloud upload and Live Streaming features. You can also do this from the camera itself, but it’s likely to be easier to find and connect to Wi-Fi networks from the app in your phone, rather than having to navigate an on-screen keyboard in the camera’s menus.

Newer cameras may include the option to download Custom Picture color profiles for video from Canon’s LUT library. This downloads standard .cube LUTs to your phone, from where you can push them to your camera. Via a rather convoluted process, you can then save these LUTs into one of the Custom Picture slots in your camera and save them to the SD card to simplify the process in future.

The final option in a link to the camera’s online instruction manual. The precise behavior may depend on how your local Canon subsidiary uploads its manuals, but in the US, at least, you get the choice of the user manual as html pages or in pdf form.

USB connection

What really sets Camera Connect apart from many other manufacturer apps is the ability to connect the two devices directly with a USB cable. Canon’s recent cameras have a “Choose USB connection app” menu option at the end of their network settings menu. Android users can leave it in the default “Photo Import/Remote Control” setting, whereas Apply users will need to select “Canon app(s) for iPhone.”

Camera menu for choosing a USB connection app, with “Canon app(s) for iPhone” highlighted.
Both the Android and iOS versions of the app can make direct connections over USB, but you have to set the camera to a special USB mode to work with an Apple phone.
Richard Butler

Once this is set, connecting a cable between the devices lets you jump straight into features such as image import, live view control or auto upload, that usually require a Wi-Fi connection. The Android version even asked whether you want Camera Connect to be automatically opened, when you connect your camera.

Canon EOS R8 camera shown in a camera app home screen.
Simply connecting the phone and app using a USB cable will let you use most of the modes that usually require a Wi-Fi connection. Only faster, and with none of the hurdles of pairing.
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This USB route is much faster than Wi-Fi and doesn’t require any pairing in advance. The camera doesn’t need to recognize the phone and you won’t need to select which phone to connect to, if you have more than one pairing registered: you just plug in and go. Even with a USB connection, the Android app won’t let you transfer Raws.

Other Apps

Finally, beyond the Functions tab, the Camera Connect app has an ‘Apps’ tab that lets you download Canon’s other smartphone apps, including its Selphy printing app and the EOS Webcam Utility Pro app.

Bluetooth connection success screen with Canon camera registration prompt and Register and Later buttons.
You’ve done something. Would you like to register your camera with your Canon ID?
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Canon app Bluetooth connection screen with a pop-up about registering additional cameras and an OK button.
Are you sure? You can do it later if you like. But what you can’t do is stop the app asking you. Constantly.
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Each time you open the app, it connects to Canon’s servers and checks for firmware updates for the currently active camera model. If an update is available, the app can show you the change log and let you download the firmware to your phone. It’ll then establish a Wi-Fi connection to the camera to transfer the firmware update file. 

Only once that file has transferred completely to the camera are you asked if you want to update the firmware, so you don’t have to worry about connection status during the update.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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With the right lenses, all formats can shine

Proper support lets different formats deliver on their size/price/IQ promise

Two Fujifilm mirrorless cameras with attached lenses, one black and one silver, on a gray surface.Richard Butler

I’m going to argue that Sigma’s 50-120mm F2.8 is one of the most interesting lenses this year. And not just because I’ve been asking for something like it, for years.

Different formats have different strengths and weaknesses, generally offering a different balance of size, price and image quality. But they can only live up to their full potential if they have lenses that let them deliver the size or price benefits they should be capable of.

An array of Fujifilm lenses for APS-C cameras
Many mirrorless systems are now mature enough to include a broad range of lenses, such as Fujifilm’s X-mount lineup, pictured here.

For various reasons that have very little to do with the merits, or otherwise, of APS-C, most of the biggest camera makers have heavily focused their lens development on full-frame. This has left us in the odd situation where Canon, Nikon and Sony all make some quite nice APS-C bodies, but with lenses for them being distinctly few and far between.

But, as was the case in the DSLR era, third-party makers such as Sigma and Tamron have helped fill the gap. And, refreshingly, for the most part, the big camera makers have let them.

Different formats can only live up to their full potential if they have lenses that let them deliver their size or price benefits

Finally, with the arrival of Sigma’s new 75-180mm equiv zoom, APS-C users across multiple systems can put together some pretty flexible kits that take full advantage of the size, price, image quality balance that the format should be able to provide.

Black Sigma 50-120mm camera lens beside a Deschutes Black Butte non-alcoholic beer can.
Until you see it in person, it’s difficult to appreciate just how compact Sigma has managed to make its new 50-120mm F2.8 lens.
Richard Butler

Incrementally, the choice of compact primes for APS-C has expanded, with autofocus options from the likes of Sigma, Tokina and Viltrox spanning a wide range of focal lengths. In terms of zooms there are a choice of wide-angles, and both Tamron and Sigma offer some interesting fast standard zooms

Even the camera makers themselves seem to recognize this need, with Nikon, Sony and Fujifilm all offering 16-50-ish F2.8 options. And, collectively, these options will cover a wide range of photography situations.

Wide-angle zoomsFast standard zoomsFast tele zooms
Fujifilm X-mount• Fujifilm 8-16mm F2.8
• Fujifilm 10-24mm F4
• Sigma 10-18mm F2.8
• Tamron 11-20mm F2.8
• Tokina 11-18mm F2.8
• Fujifilm 16-55mm F2.8
• Sigma 17-40mm F1.8
• Sigma 18-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 16-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 VC
• Fujifilm 50-140mm F2.8
• Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS
Sony E-mount• Sony 10-24mm F4
• Sigma 10-18mm F2.8
• Tamron 11-20mm F2.8
• Tokina 11-18mm F2.8
• Sony 16-55mm F2.8 G
• Sigma 17-40mm F1.8
• Sigma 18-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 16-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 VC
• Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS
Canon RE-mount• Canon 10-18mm F4.5-6.3 IS
• Sigma 10-18mm F2.8
• Tamron 11-20mm F2.8
• Sigma 17-40mm F1.8
• Sigma 18-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 16-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 VC
• Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS
Nikon Z-mount• Nikon 12-28mm F3.5-5.6 PZ VR• Nikon 16-50mm F2.8 VR
• Tamron 16-50mm F2.8
• Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 VC
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The addition of a modern approximation of a 70-200mm equiv for APS-C rounds out this lineup. It means you can keep your kit small and relatively affordable across an even wider range of photography. And it’s hard to convey just how small the Sigma 50-120mm is, until you see it in person.

Obviously, a 50-120mm F2.8 is not fully equivalent to an F2.8 75-180mm lens on full-frame (120/2.8 ≠ 180/2.8), but it lets you do the things that make a 70-200mm lens on full-frame so popular, while maintaining the size and price benefits you get in return for the image quality trade-off.

I loved the original APO Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX II HSM in the DSLR era because it was two-thirds the size of a 70-200 and two-thirds the price. It was a much easier to handle and less potentially intimidating lens than a 70-200, helping give me the confidence to shoot some of my first public portraits. And it was much easier to carry than the second-hand 70-200mm F2.8 I’d previously bought and that sat at home unless I was absolutely sure I’d need it.

3qrt view of the Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC lens
For years, I described the original APO 50-150mm F2.8 as two-thirds the size of a 70-200mm F2.8, two-thirds the weight and two-thirds the cost. The 50-120mm makes those differences even greater, which will perhaps make it a more compelling alternative to its bigger, more expensive counterpart.
Richard Butler

The new Sigma not only repeats that trick but improves on it. It’s so much smaller and lighter than an actual 70-200mm lens (even compared with Canon’s RF 70-200mm F4 with which it’s approximately equivalent) that it means I can keep it with me, even if I’m not anticipating needing it.

So, APS-C users, you have a choice: you can believe the bottom-line-benefitting talk of ‘upgrade paths,’ and saddle yourself with a heavy, expensive 105-300mm equiv lens (which can have their uses, but that aren’t necessarily the same as those of a 70-200mm), or you opt for the Sigma, and gain approximately 70-200 utility in a lens you can fit in a coat pocket. As an APS-C shooter, I know which makes sense to me.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Throwback Thursday: Sigma APO 50-150mm F2.8 EX II

Sigma’s new 50-120mm F2.8 prompts a look back at an oft-overlooked lens that should have been a classic

Purple and pink chive flowers with a bumblebee on a purple bloom.Richard Butler

Sometimes the future creeps up on you quicker than you expected. We’ve been thinking about re-starting our Throwback Thursday series for a while, but Sigma’s announcement of a 75-180mm equivalent lens for APS-C rather forced our hand.

This year marks 20 years since Sigma launched the original APO 50-150mm F2.8 EX HSM DC, a fast 75-225mm equivalent zoom for APS-C. A lens that gave APS-C DSLR users the range and utility of a classic 70-200mm but without the cost or weight of one.

DPReview marked the date with a single-paragraph news story along with Sigma’s press release, which was our standard level of lens coverage, back when the site had only a single full-time member of staff. We described it as “very interesting sounding.” Even for Phil’s level of British understatement, this is to significantly under-sell the lens. At a time when full-frame was out of reach for all but the most committed enthusiasts, this gave APS-C users a lens they hadn’t had before: a dedicated, fast 70-200mm equiv.

Pack of road cyclists emerge from under London's Hungerford Bridge with spectators cheering behind barriers.
Nikon D300S w/ Sigma APO 50-150mm EX II DC @ 150mm | F3.2 | 1/1600 sec | ISO 500
Richard Butler

A slightly revised Mark II with very similar specs was released in 2008 and a copy made its way to the DPReview offices. It must have been a Nikon version as there are samples in the review gallery of the Nikon D5000 and D300S reviews the next year. There’s one shot by Phil, but the rest seem to be by me. Because I loved that lens.

Black Sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 camera lens with zoom and focus rings on a white background.
The original Sigma APO 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC (I used the slightly revised Mk II version). The lens was first launched in 2006, long before we made a habit of preserving the full-resolution product images.
Sigma

I’d arrived at DPReview as the owner of both an APS-C DSLR and a 70-200mm F2.8 that I barely ever used because it was just too big and heavy to casually carry around. Even having bought it second-hand, it ended up being one of my least cost-effective photographic purchases ever.

The 50-150mm was a revelation: it was less than two-thirds the size of most 70-200mm F2.8s, less than two-thirds of the weight and something like two-thirds the price. Unsurprisingly, it was much more directly comparable with the dimensions of Canon’s popular 70-200mm F4, but offering a range I found more useful and with an extra stop of light capture on the APS-C cameras we tended to be testing.

Cyclist wearing a silver helmet and orange Halfords Bikehut jersey against a blue background.
Nikon D300S w/ Sigma APO 50-150mm EX II DC @ 105mm
F2.8 | 1/400 sec | ISO 200
Richard Butler
Close-up portrait of a woman wearing a beaded necklace and gray top outdoors.
Nikon D5000 w/ Sigma APO 50-150mm EX II DC @ 90mm
F2.8 | 1/400 sec | ISO 200
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It had the range to let me shoot things like bike racing and also made a pretty handy portrait lens, as it was much easier to handle and much less intimidating than a full-sized, tripod-footed 70-200 F2.8. And its compact size meant I did actually carry it around with me. And got more photos, as a result. The 50-150mm taught me an important lesson about how different formats can shine, if they’re properly supported.

I used it regularly over the time we had it and was disappointed when its stabilized replacement used the same housing as the 70-200mm F2.8 launched alongside it: giving up the size and weight benefits that appealed so much in the first place. It’s what perhaps made me a little over-excited when, years later, Fujifilm and Samsung produced similar lenses, even though they weren’t as small or light as I’d hoped.

I think I’ve requested or asked after a 50-150mm successor almost every time I’ve met Sigma’s CEO, Kazuto Yamaki. I thought I was reading too much into his response when he seemed more positive about the idea, last time we met.

But the only thing that excited me more than hearing that Sigma was about to lauch a spiritual successor to the 50-150mm F2.8, was unboxing it for the first time and finding out that the new lens is even smaller and even lighter than its DSLR forbear. And, looking at the images: sharper and better able to focus, too. I wonder if this new lens will inspire the same decades-long appreciation.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Sigma’s 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC is an APS-C legend in the making, for just $799

Fast 75-180mm equiv lens is coming to most of the popular lens mounts and is smaller than you can believe

3qrt view of the Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC lensRichard Butler

Sigma has announced the 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC | Contemporary, a fast telezoom for APS-C mirrorless cameras. The lens delivers a 75-180mm equivalent range for Fujifilm X or Sony E mount cameras and an 80-192mm equiv range for Canon RF users.

The lens is a spiritual successor to the excellent APO 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM from 2006, but manages to add stabilization and downsize considerably.

At just 67mm wide and 99mm long (3.90 x 2.63″) for the E-mount version, the lens is smaller than a standard can of Coke (both the 330ml and 12oz versions). Its length extends by 25% when zoomed to its full extreme but is still only a fraction longer (5mm/0.2″) than Canon’s RF 70-200mm F4 in its retracted form. It weighs 390g (13.8oz), which again is remarkably similar to the weight of a full can of Coke.

A Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC placed alongside a Fujifilm 50-140mm F2.8 lens.
The Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC alongside the Fujifilm XF 50-140mm F2.8 LM OIS WR, showing the size difference.
Richard Butler

The 50-120mm completes a trio of F2.8 zooms for APS-C mirrorless, alongside the existing 10-18mm F2.8 and 18-50mm F2.8 lenses. Despite its longer range and similarly bright aperture, it shares a 55mm filter thread with the 18-50mm. It’s the only member of the F2.8 DC set to have a dedicated aperture ring and image stabilizaton.

That stabilization is rated at 6.5 stops of correction at 50mm and 4.5 stops at the 120mm long end, per tests conducted to CIPA’s standard methodology.

A Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC placed alongside a Fujifilm 50-140mm F2.8 lens. The Sigma is extended to its 120mm position.
The Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC alongside the Fujifilm XF 50-140mm F2.8 LM OIS WR, showing the size difference when the Sigma is extended to its full zoom position.
Richard Butler

The new lens uses a “high response linear actuator” for autofocus and has seemed swift and reliable from our usage so far, though we’ve not been trying sports shooting with it just yet.

The optical design utilizes 18 elements in 13 groups, including one fluorite-like FLD element, three super-low dispersion elements and four aspherics. The company says it’s been designed to exhibit minimal focus breathing, to extend its usefulness to video. It features 11 rounded aperture blades to keep bokeh circular.

The Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC sits next to Canon's retractable RF-mount 70-200mm F2.8 L, showing the size difference
The Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 OS DC alongside Canon’s retractable RF-mount 70-200mm F2.8L IS, both lenses extended to 100mm-equivalent positions. A fairer comparison would be the RF 70-200mm F4, which is still 25% wider and 20% longer, in its retracted position. And around twice the price.
Richard Butler

The lens barrel features a zoom ring, focus ring and a dedicated aperture ring (on the Sony and Fujifilm versions, at least) with an ‘A’ position. The Canon RF version will have a smooth-rotating control ring instead of an aperture ring.

As part of the Contemporary series it’s been designed to be dust and splash resistant. Its presence in Sigma’s more affordable line also means it’s priced at a remarkably reasonable $799.

Shooting experience

I’ve been shooting with a Fujifilm mount version of the lens for a week or so and I’m still caught off-guard occasionally that I’m using a 70-180mm equivalent, rather than a standard zoom.

Close-up of a gray squirrel eating a nut on a stone surface.
Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 on a Fujifilm X-H2 @ 120mm | F3.6 | 1/500 sec | ISO 160
Richard Butler

The aperture ring, the first on one of Sigma’s DC zooms for mirrorless, works nicely with the X-T4 and X-H2 bodies I used it on, though I did wish the lens could be locked in or out of the A position, rather than it simply being spaced a little further beyond F22.

For the size and the price, I was willing to forgive some pretty major image quality issues but didn’t encounter too many.

Close focus isn’t this lens’s strength, with the corners getting extremely soft and swirly if you shoot a flat subject a 50mm. Things are a lot more predictable near minimum focus distance at the long end of the zoom.

The swirliness makes a reappearance in the bokeh at times, but not in a way I found objectionable. In general, I found the bokeh to be soft and attractive, without any fussiness, which isn’t always a given for a fast tele zoom.

Pine branch with green needles and small brown pine cones against a blurred outdoor background.
Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 on a Fujifilm X-H2 @ 120mm | F2.8 | 1/350 sec | ISO 125
Richard Butler

In general, sharpness seems impressive, despite the use of X-Trans sensors, which our standard lens processing doesn’t always show to its best effect. There appears to be a small degree of pincussion distortion being corrected at both ends of the zoom, but nothing dramatic (it doesn’t appear to account for the close-focus strangeness at short focal lengths).

Orange-and-black butterfly with spread wings resting on a weathered pink wall.
Sigma 50-120mm F2.8 on a Fujifilm X-T4 @ 120mm | F5.6 | 1/680 sec | ISO 160
Richard Butler

It’s hard for me to be completely dispassionate about a lens that I’ve been hoping someone would make, for years, but I’m genuinely stunned by how small and easy-to-carry Sigma has managed to make the 50-120mm F2.8 OS. I look forward to shooting it for longer, once RF-mount versions are available, to see how it behaves on the EOS R7, since that’s currently the highest-res Bayer APS-C sensor.

As always, we’ve included Raws for download in our gallery, including some close-focus examples and a couple of aperture comparisons, so you can make your own assessment.

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About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Full-frame but not the whole picture: there isn’t a one-size fits all format

All formats are a compromise, and full-frame isn’t necessarily the Goldilocks format

Close-up of a Canon EOS camera sensor mount with exposed sensor and metal lens ring.Mitchell Clark

Full-frame has been the center of attention for the past few years, which can result in it overshadowing other formats. But, with the right support, different formats have their place, and we all lose out if those options are neglected.

Full-frame gets its name – and much of its level of manufacturer backing – from the fact that it allowed photographers to use their film-era lenses as originally designed. The economics of sensor manufacture pushed the likes of Canon, Nikon and Konica Minolta into the use of smaller sensors at the start of the digital era, but the large user-bases, including professional users with existing lens commitments, along with significant R&D investment having been spent on building up lens lineups, created powerful incentives to move to sensors that captured the “full frame” that those film-era lenses were designed to project.

That same push from users wanting to keep using their existing lenses, along with an audience now familiar with the image quality of digital full-frame, ensured that similar pressures came to bear as the industry moved across to mirrorless, such that the dimensions of “35mm” film still dominate the pro and enthusiast-focused products from Canon, Nikon and Sony.

And this concentration of development efforts means “full-frame” is the most extensively supported format on the market. Canon, Nikon and Sony all make APS-C cameras, but the bulk of their lens investment has been focused on full-frame, just reinforcing that format’s primacy in their lineups.

A three-quarter view of a black Nikon Z5IIC with a 26mm F2.8 pancake lens attached, against a gray background.
Nikon’s latest attempt to make an ‘accessible’ mirrorless camera for a younger, first-camera audience is built around a full-frame sensor, meaning very few of its lenses are as compact as this 26mm F2.8
Richard Butler / Mitchell Clark

But that doesn’t mean it’s the best format or even some kind of carefully considered optimum. Like all formats, it’s an arbitrary choice; in this instance, it dimensions came about because a German engineer decided to use silent-era cinema film the wrong way round, more than a century ago.

Every sensor format represents a trade-off between size, price and image quality. Larger sensors (or film formats) have an inherent image quality advantage because they have more light-capturing surface, but the lenses needed to provide any given field-of-view have longer focal lengths, making them bigger, heavier and more expensive. You can hunt around for exceptions: a particularly large or small body, or one especially small prime lens, but for the system as a whole, the overall trade-off remains true.

Full-frame digital can offer spectacular image quality, but even with the move to mirrorless, its cameras and lenses are larger than their film-era counterparts were. If the 35mm film format was a Goldilocks balance of quality vs portability and cost, then digital full-frame isn’t, because it offers a completely different balance. Better image quality, but with both a size and financial cost (and these differences are worth considering before you decide to point out that 35mm film could be called ‘small format’).

If you’re after something closer to the balance of size, price and image quality that 35mm film offered, you might find it in APS-C instead. Its smaller sensor means it doesn’t match the depth-of-field that 35mm film offered, but in terms of IQ, camera and lens size, it’s much closer to being a match. Just compare the size of the Nikon FE, Fujifilm’s X-T5 and Nikon’s Zf, paired with appropriate lenses, to confirm this for yourself.

nikon zf sitting next to fm2
Even with the mirror removed, full-frame digital cameras struggle to match the size of their film forebears. The Nikon FM2 and its contemporary lenses are arguably closer in size (and image quality) to digital APS-C.
Richard Butler

Likewise, for travel and wildlife in particular, the smaller Four Thirds format lets you further downsize the whole setup, giving lenses with longer reach or compact prime-lens combinations that let you travel light. Yes, you pay an image quality cost for moving to a smaller format, but you might end up with a shot that you simply wouldn’t get if your kit becomes too unwieldy to carry with you. 

The same is true in the other direction: 44 x 33mm Medium Format offers around a two-thirds-of-a-stop advantage over full-frame, at the same exposure, if you want better image quality. But those same downsides of larger, more expensive lenses are inescapable.

All formats are arbitrary size/price/image quality trade-offs. They may be popular or well-supported, but none is inherently best, because each has an innate compromise at its heart. And what makes sense for you, isn’t necessarily ideal for everyone.

Those other options, and that ability to choose a format that suits your kind of shooting, will only exist if those formats continue to be supported by manufacturers and by photographers. We lose that choice if we decide that some formats are lesser, or just stepping stones to another, rather than treating each as an entity in its own right.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Why the difference between launch price and street price matters

Prices are going up, but comparing MSRPs to discounted deals doesn’t make things any clearer

A large paper price label with the words "How much?!?" hangs in front of a modern digital cameraComposite: Richard Butler

This is the concluding article looking at why our perspective on cameras’ prices can seem out-of-step with other people’s initial reactions, on the day of launch. And it covers that fact the MSRPs always seem expensive, at first.

I don’t think we’ve reported on many launches without at least some people commenting, “it’s too expensive, what are they thinking?” or some variation thereof. And then comparing the price to the cost of an outgoing model, the price they paid for something in a sale, years earlier, or a second-hand deal on a completely unrelated camera type.

All of which is to miss the point. MSRPs aren’t the same thing as street prices and, although they’re quoted in the same units, they’re not particularly comparable.

MSRPs are the manufacturer’s opening gambit: they generally represent the highest price they’ll ever get for a product. An ‘early-adopter tax’, in many instances.

On the day of launch, all cameras look over-priced because their peers have been on the market for a while, their prices have softened somewhat, or they’ve explicitly been put on sale. And those MSRPs look even more overpriced if you compare them to the outgoing model, or a previous one because the manufacturer and retailers are trying to get rid of them, before they become impossible to sell.

A silver Nikon Z5IIC on a gray background, with its articulating display flipped out.
The Nikon Z5IIC tied with the original Z5 as the second-least-expensive full-frame digital camera ever launched, even without considering the effect of inflation in the meantime. Recognizing that, despite cheaper options still hanging around, helps understand why, for instance, Nikon down-specced the rear screen: because it’ll end up selling well below its list price, soon enough.
Richard Butler / Mitchell Clark

But, just in case it needs saying: no manufacturer can introduce a new product at the narrow-to-no margin price that the outgoing model is being flogged-off at. Nor can they sensibly consider the second-hand prices of decade-old higher-end models, when setting prices.

This all varies somewhat between markets. In the US, list prices are more aggressively maintained than in Europe and the UK, where retailers have more freedom to offer some sort of discount fairly soon after the camera hits the shelves. This, along with Euro and Sterling prices usually being quoted including tax, is a big part of why US prices typically appear cheaper at first: because the US list price is set at a level that more people will have to actually pay.

MSRPs help us see how products are positioned, relative to one another.

None of which is an attempt to say you should just pay the MSRP on Day 1: quite the opposite. If an older, higher-end model is still floating around when the new model is launched and it suits your requirements, you should probably buy that. Our attempts to put pricing in a longer-term context aren’t an attempt to encourage you to buy something at full price.

But if history has repeatedly shown that those old models disappear from the market and the price of the new camera drops to a level comparable to others launched at the same MSRP, then it would be perverse and unhelpful to pretend we don’t know this. We want our reviews to still make sense a month or so after publication, which they won’t if we declare all new cameras “overpriced” despite what we know will happen next.

MSRPs let us see how things are positioned, relative to one another. They help us understand the price point, rather than the literal consumer price, of a camera.

Inflation muddies the waters still further, and prices are going up, but it’s worth remembering that launch prices have always looked too high. Even for that camera you’re now holding up as an example of what this new model should cost.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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LK Samyang says its forthcoming, fast 28-135 is the lens for “every moment”

Korean lens maker says it has a 28-135mm F2.8 for Sony E-mount coming in February 2027

Promotional image showing the top edge of a lens on a black background, with the words "The New All Rounder" and "AF 28-135mm F2.8 FE" overlaidSamyang

LK Samyang has started to tease the arrival of a 28-135mm F2.8 autofocus zoom for Sony E-mount, more than four months ahead of a February 2027 launch.

The company has only released close-up photos of the lens, so far, but has also published full specifications.

So we know it’ll be an extending zoom that expands from 151mm to 190mm long, as you zoom in (6.0-7.5″). We also know that it’ll weigh 854g (1.9lbs).

This makes it almost 30% longer than the Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 G2 and around 60% heavier, so you definitely pay a price for the additional flexibility the Samyang should offer. It’s around 27% longer and 50% heavier than Tamron’s 35-100mm F2.8, that doesn’t offer either the wide-angle or telephoto capabilities that this will.

It will also take an 82mm filter, rather than the 67mm filter used by the two Tamrons.

As with other recent LK Samyang lenses, its autofocus will be driven by a voice coil motor, which should be quiet and fast.

And, although no mention of them is made, the preview images show control ring grips that match the company’s lenses co-developed with Schneider-Kreuznach.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Why your sense of camera prices might be out-of-date

Cameras and lenses can seem more expensive than ever, but a lot of that is out of the manufacturers’ hands

A steadily rising trend line appears in front of two out-of-focus camerasComposite: Richard Butler

Camera prices, like most other prices, are going up. Part of this has been manufacturers focusing on high-end users, because they tend to buy the higher-margin products. But even attempts at making more accessible cameras can seem wildly expensive, compared to the prices we remember paying.

And that’s not a question of manufacturers being foolish or greedy. Whether we like it or not, we are living through a period of higher inflation than we’re used to.

This is the first of a two-part series looking at why the perspective on cameras’ prices in our reviews can seem out-of-step with other people’s initial reactions, on the day of launch.

Many of us lived through a more than twenty-year period of relatively low inflation. Prices of most things rose by around 2% per year, the cost of electronics fell, partly with the outsourcing of manufacture and through increased efficiencies and economies of scale. Wages typically kept pace with inflation, so things didn’t feel more expensive. Large sensor digital cameras got cheaper at first, then settled into a pattern of improving while maintaining their existing price.

Top-down view of OM System PEN
The OM System PEN is less expensive than the PEN F was, a decade ago, in money terms (without taking inflation into account) as well as in ‘real’ terms (with inflation factored in), making it much easier to recognize that its been repositioned to a more affordable position in the market.
Richard Butler

Sadly, that’s no longer the world we live in. It’s impossible to enumerate all the factors that got us to here without spiraling off into discussions of politics, but there have been a host of inflationary pressures over the past few years. Whether it’s supply-chain shocks, tariffs, wars putting pressure on oil and gas prices or out-of-control demand for processors and RAM, there’s more pushing prices up than encouraging them to drop.

Manufacturer’s materials and energy costs have gone up. Their component prices have become erratic. Their wages have gone up. Their logistics costs have increased. They cannot make cameras for the prices we used to pay. And, because of the way inflation works, the $1000 you had planned for your next purchase simply isn’t worth as much as that figure have been, five or six years ago.

I’m not trying to defend inflation, or suggesting you should (or even can) just decide it doesn’t matter.

I suspect it’s not just me who finds myself marveling at articles or footage from the 70’s showing a pint of beer priced in pennies or a gallon of ‘gas’ in cents. To a more modern ear, that just seems unimaginable, and it’s hard to see how we got from there to where we are. For most of my adult life, the changes have been incremental enough that I didn’t notice the jump. But thinking back to when I was at college, a pint in my favorite pub was £1.36. I visited the same pub this summer, and it was £5.30. Those little changes have ramped up into big ones in the past few years, and now the prices of my own yesteryears are beginning to seem impossibly distant. 

The same thing is happening with cameras, and just about all manufactured products: the value of money is dropping faster than any reduction in the cost of electronics (and a lot of key components are being bought for AI, before it can get anywhere near consumer products). Also, there’s every chance that it’s been some time since you last bought a new camera, and that precisely remembered reference point is no longer realistic.

None of which is to say that we have to like it. I’m not trying to defend it, or suggesting you should (or even can) just decide it doesn’t matter. But getting frustrated about it or insisting that the latest camera should cost what your last one did, pre-pandemic, isn’t going to change things. None of us enjoys it, but pretending inflation doesn’t exist or that rising prices are down to manufacturer misjudgment or greed doesn’t get you anywhere useful.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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OM System PEN studio scene: see how much image quality you can carry with you

Studio images and Raw analysis back up the performance we saw when out shooting.

3qtr view of OM System PENRichard Butler

With the release of Adobe Camera Raw 18.7, we now have Raw support for the OM System PEN, bringing us one step closer to being able to complete our review.

As you might expect, the PEN’s performance is a match for that of the OM-5 Mark II, with which it shares a sensor and processor. This may seem obvious but we have to check, to be certain that our assumptions about shared components are correct and that there are no unreported changes to the processing. It also ensures that you can select the OM System PEN in our test scene, if you want to make any comparisons in future.

Its 20MP sensor captures a good level of detail (our test scene gives a slight benefit to 4:3 aspect ratio cameras, reducing the already minor difference between the PEN and the 24MP of the Canon EOS R10). In terms of noise the PEN’s performance is a little behind the larger sensor of the Nikon Z50II, but it’s not significantly noisier than the Canon, whose 1.6x crop sensor seems to slightly underperform expectations.

The PEN’s performance is entirely in keeping with what we’d expect to see from a modern sensor, backing up the results we got when shooting its sample gallery. We’ve already seen that the JPEG engine can produce a range of attractive results and these confirm that the technical underpinnings are sound.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Compare and contrast: full specs comparisons are back

We’ve rebuilt one of the most requested features as part of the site’s continuing redesign

The DPReview camera comparison tool shown on a smartphone placed between the two cameras being compared: a Fujifilm X100V and a Panasonic L10Richard Butler

The updated site may still be in beta, but we’re pleased to be able to announce the return of one of its most requested features: full-spec camera comparisons.

As well as big changes like this, we’ve been making continued improvements and fixes behind the scenes, but we’re now in a position to address one of the most common requests: a camera comparison feature that makes proper use of our specs database.

We appreciate how important it is to the community that the tool works well, and recognize that it wasn’t up to your expectations at the site’s launch. Having worked hard to build and maintain our database for more than 26 years, this was always something we planned to do, so we’re pleased to be able to add it back to the site.

The new camera comparison feature makes it easier to compare, especially on mobile

The camera comparison feature works slightly differently than before but should also present the data in a way that’s both easier to read and to compare, especially on mobile. We’ll be making some adjustments in the coming days and weeks, and as always, we welcome your feedback about how it can be further improved.

This isn’t the end, by any means, though. A light theme version of the site is already being tested, to make sure it works reliably across the site, so please bear with us as we continue to improve the website.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Camera experts compare the Canon EOS R8 II and Nikon Z5II. Here’s how they stack up

We take a closer look at how Canon’s EOS R8 II squares up to our current pick at this price: the Nikon Z5II

A three quarter view of the EOS R8 II with the 24-50mm F4.5-6.3 lens.Mitchell Clark

The Canon EOS R8 II adds two of the features that many people felt the original model could have benefited from: an autofocus joystick and in-body image stabilization.

However, as well as making it a better camera, these additions, along with inflation, have made it a more expensive camera, putting it in direct competition with Nikon’s Z5II, which is our current pick of sub-$2000 full-frame cameras.

The Nikon has been on the market longer, so its price has softened a bit, but its list price is within $50 of that of the Canon, so it’s likely they’ll end up costing a similar amount. While the original R8 and, in some places, the original Z5 persist at reduced prices, these are some of the least expensive current models for anyone looking to join a full-frame system and are designed to act as the entry point to this part of the market.

Having used both cameras extensively, we thought we’d look at how they compare and which we think is better.

Headline specs

On paper the core specs of the two cameras are very similar: they have the same-sized sensors with comparable pixel counts, both have image stabilization and both include an AF joystick.

Canon EOS R8 Mark IINikon Z5II
MSRP$1899 body-only
$2099 with 24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS
$1850 body-only
$2149 with 24-50mm f/4-6.3
Resolution24MP24MP
Image stabilizationSensor-shiftSensor-shift
AF joystickYesYes
Image stabilization rating (CIPA)7.5 (with IS lens)7.5
Continuous drive, FPS6 fps (Mech)
40 fps (E-shutter)
14 fps (Mech)
30 fps (E-shutter, JPEG only)
Pre-capture0.5sec JPEG/HEIF/RawUp to 1 sec JPEG only
Max shutter speed1/40001/8000
EVF resolution
(magnification)
2.36M dots
(0.7x mag)
3.68M dots
(0.8x mag)
Rear screen3″, 1.62M dot
Fully articulated
3.2″, 2.1M dot
Fully articulated
Video modesUp to 4K/60
full-width from 6K
C-Log3/HDR PQ/HLG
Up to 4K/30 full-width from 6K
Up to 4K/60 1.5x crop
N-Log/HLG/N-Raw
Card slots1x UHS-II SD2x UHS-II SD
Battery life
LCD/EVF (CIPA)
270/150 shots350/330 shots
Dimensions131 x 90 x 80mm
(5.2 x 3.5 x 3.1″)
134 x 101 x 72mm
(5.3 x 4.0 x 2.8″)
Weight546g (19.3oz)700g (24.7oz)

Beyond the core specs, it all becomes a little less clear-cut, with the Canon offering some benefits over the Nikon with regards weight, maximum burst speed and the ability to capture Raw at its fastest burst speeds and in its pre-capture mode. But there are probably more ways in which the Z5II is a stronger camera.

By taking a look at the main differences and when they play a role, it might help you decide which would be the better camera for you.

EVF/LCD

The EOS R8 II with its screen folded out.
Both the Z5II and EOS R8 Mark II have flip-out, fully articulated screens, but the Nikon’s is a little larger and slightly higher in resolution. It’s the same story but to a greater degree, when it comes to viewfinder.
Mitchell Clark

The Nikon has a larger, higher resolution viewfinder than the Canon. The EOS R8 II is built around a smaller viewfinder panel, which is why its resolution is limited to 2.36M dots, which is 1024 x 768px. The Nikon has a larger panel, meaning it can offer higher magnification (a larger view) and 3.69M dot resolution, which equates to 1280 x 960px. This is a 25% increase in linear resolution, which is enough to make the view seem less pixelated, even with the greater magnification. The Nikon’s finder also goes brighter, giving a more realistic preview of highlights.

The Nikon’s rear screen is also a touch larger 3.2″ display with 1024 x 680px resolution, vs the Canon’s 3.0″, 900 x 600px display. The size is likely to make more difference than the roughly 14% difference in linear resolution. Both cameras have fully-articulated displays that hinge to the side.

Mechanical shutters

Another difference is that the Nikon has a full mechanical shutter, whereas the Canon has an electronic first curtain (/mechanical second curtain) shutter. This doesn’t make a huge difference for most real-world shooting, but one difference is that the Nikon can shoot at up to 1/8000 sec shutter speeds, whereas the Canon tops-out a stop earlier than that.

The Canon’s fully electronic shutter mode can go higher than this, but with a readout speed of around 1/70 sec, this can’t be used with flash and risks showing rolling shutter distortion with fast movement and banding with flickering lights.

Twin card slots

A side view of the Nikon Z5II showing its card door open and one memory card in one of the slots
The Nikon Z5II has twin card slots to the Canon’s single SD one, but this is more a question of peace-of-mind than absolute necessity, unless you’re on a paid shoot.
Richard Butler

The Nikon has twin SD card slots, while the Canon has just one. This isn’t likely to make a huge difference to any but the most risk-averse photographers. Dual card slots can offer a level of dependability that is essential for professional work, but is more a question of your risk comfort level ranged against your willingness to pay for multiple cards, for most day-to-day photography.

Video

The EOS R8 II with its screen flipped out and a large shotgun microphone attached to the hotshoe.Mitchell Clark

Things are less clear-cut when it comes to video. The Z5II can capture Raw video which might, if you’re from a photo background, sound like an immediate win for the Nikon. But, in practice, this generates a lot of data, requires a rather more involved workflow and doesn’t offer the same magnitude of benefit over 10-bit log footage as Raw does over JPEG, in stills.

By contrast, the Canon can record 4K/60, derived from 6K, full-width capture, whereas the Nikon has to crop in to an APS-C region, if you want to shoot footage for slow-mo moments. This makes it harder to maintain a wide angle-of-view and lowers quality on the Nikon. Both cameras shoot 10-bit log, with Canon’s C-Log3 being preferred by many editors.

Battery life

Nikon Z5II with EN-EL15c battery
Now that’s a battery. The Z5II uses the same 16Wh unit as its more expensive siblings, meaning over twice the capacity and over twice the rated battery life.

However, battery life is a much more decisive difference between the cameras. The Z5II uses the same 16Wh battery as the Z6 series modes, powering it to a rating of 350 shots per charge if you shoot using the rear screen or 330 if you use the viewfinder. The Canon uses a much smaller 7.5Wh battery, from which it delivers a rated lifespan of 270 and 150 shots per charge, for using the rear screen and viewfinder, respectively.

And, while the numbers that the standard testing offers up aren’t necessarily exactly those you’ll see in the real world, we’d generally expect a camera that measures as 330 shots per charge to last around twice as long as one rated at 150. The video ratings are also a little over twice as high for the Nikon. For anyone looking to use the camera for more than occasional snaps, this difference is likely to be very noticeable.

It’s one of the factors that makes the Nikon appreciably heavier, though, weighing in at 700g (24.7oz), making it 154g (5.4oz) heavier than the Canon.

Lens choice

The EOS R8 II from the top in hand.
The Canon RF 45mm F1.2 STM is an excellent option for the EOS R8 Mark II, but it’s worth checking the list of available lenses to ensure they have the lenses you want, at prices you’re willing to pay.
Mitchell Clark

The final consideration is lens choice. Given all modern ILCs sit somewhere between ‘really quite good’ and ‘excellent,’ the availability of appropriate lenses is just as important as your choice of camera brand.

Both Canon and Nikon have built out fairly extensive lens lineups with a selection of low, mid and high-level lenses, in a good array of sizes and focal lengths. However, both have also tried to restrict access to their mounts to their own lenses plus a handful of lenses they’ve licensed third-parties to make: the majority of which are for APS-C models, but with some of Tamron’s full-frame options available for Nikon. The biggest difference, in this regard, is that unlicensed third party makers are offering increasing numbers of lenses for the Nikon Z-mount, whereas Canon has more effectively controlled the RF ecosystem.

In both instances, we’d recommend checking whether the lenses you think you might want exist at a price you’re willing to pay. And to check reports and reviews, if those lenses are made by third parties, as the autofocus performance in particular can vary significantly even within the same brand.

Summary

nikon z5ii top plate
The Canon has a few more automated features to make the EOS R8 II that bit easier to use, but these don’t particularly help you learn how to move beyond those modes, and we’d expect the learning curve for both cameras to be very similar, based on our use of them.

There are the hints the Canon has tried to make the EOS R8 II easier to use, with its Advanced Assist mode that is willing to automatically use multi-shot modes, where necessary, and the option of a simplified, results-focused Raw processing interface. However, the Z5II does have a button for directly accessing its Picture Control color modes, whereas the Canon has two distinct color systems, one of which can’t be accessed when shooting Raws, so in some ways the Nikon can be easier to use. The Canon’s menu is perhaps a tiny bit more logically grouped, but both are a little overwhelmed with options and will take a little time to learn.

Overall, the EOS R8 II and Z5II both offer a level of image quality and performance that you couldn’t previously get at this price and will be more than enough camera for a lot of photographers, even if inflation means they’re not quite the obvious bargains that their predecessors were.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Clearing up confusion: electronic first curtain shutters are mechanical when it counts

There are downsides to Electronic First Curtain cameras, but you’ll only see them at the extremes

The EOS R8 II's grip and sensor.Mitchell Clark

The Canon EOS R8 II is the latest camera to keep size down by adopting an electronic first curtain shutter design. This isn’t the same thing as full electronic shutter and it has very few downsides, so here’s how it works and what those downsides are.

Perhaps an easier way to understand EFCS is to think of it as Mechanical Second Curtain Shutter. The exposure is started electronically but a normal mechanical shutter then comes down to end the exposure, meaning that, unlike full electronic shutter, you can end your exposure very quickly, rather than being limited by readout speed of your sensor.

This means EFCS doesn’t have the significant rolling shutter artifacts (banding under flickering light and distorted moving subjects) that all but the fastest sensors can exhibit. The fast end to the exposure also means it can usually sync with flashes up to the same speed as a fully mechanical focal plane shutter.

In fact, it can have a benefit over full mechanical shutters, in one regard: because there’s no physical shutter snapping open at the start of the exposure, it eliminates a key source of vibration that can cause shutter shock. Some cameras with full mechanical shutters switch across to their EFCS mode within certain shutter ranges for exactly this reason.

This is the reason we’ve seen an increasing number of cameras, particularly the ones where the manufacturer has focused on downsizing and on cost reduction. In most instances, EFCS lets you use a smaller, mechanically simpler mechanism, with very little disadvantage.

The downside

It’s not entirely without downsides, though. At very high shutter speeds, where the period during which the shutter is closing makes up a significant proportion of the exposure, you can experience bokeh truncation: part of the bokeh pattern getting chopped off.

Sony a7CII sensor
Sony’s a7C series cameras also omit a mechanical first curtain shutter, helping keep both the size and cost down, compared with the mainline a7 models.
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This happens because the physical shutter used to end the exposure sits some distance in front of the sensor, so light can creep around the edge of the shutter blades as it closes. But the electronic first curtain (progressively turning the rows of the sensor on to start the exposure) doesn’t have that gap, so the start of the exposure didn’t have that light bleeding around the edge of the ‘shutter,’ giving one side of the bokeh a hard cut-off. This results in out-of-focus regions that aren’t as blurred and may not have such attractive bokeh.

However, this only becomes visible at very high shutter speeds when using lenses with fast enough apertures to significantly blur the background.

The ‘hard-edged’ nature of the electronic initiation of the exposure also means that any banding effect (from the fast flicker of LED advertising displays or high-speed sync flash) can end up being better defined and more distracting than with a fully mechanical shutter, again because light creeping around the gap between physical shutter blades and the sensor surface can soften it somewhat.

For the vast majority of situations though, including flash sync, electronic first curtain (/mechanical second curtain) shutter, is every bit as good as full mechanical shutter.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Steady progress: shooting with the Canon EOS R8 Mark II

We shot Canon’s latest low-cost full-frame body with everything from kit zooms to ‘L’ series lenses

A gravel bike with top-tube bag leans against a stout wooden post at a public rest area, taken with the Canon EOS R8 Mark IIMitchell Clark

The EOS R8 Mark II is a refreshed and up-specced entry-level full-frame mirrorless camera, adding in-body image stabilization and an AF joystick as part of a complete re-styling.

These changes and a 2026 price tag position it essentially head-to-head with Nikon’s Z5II, our current pick in this part of the market.

We’ve had a chance to shoot the EOS R8 II for an extended period and with an array of lenses, so we’ve used it for the everyday photo taking its designed for. We’ve also got some friends to stand around in a flowerbed, to make sure we got to see how it performed for portraits and people pictures.

Overall we found it to be a very likeable camera: relatively small, usefully light and with a pretty straightforward interface. It’s not overflowing with clever features, but it has a lot of what a lot of photographers might need at a price that’s a fair step below that of the more sophisticated EOS R6 III.

We go into more detail about what we liked and disliked in our review, but this gallery should give a sense for what the R8 II can do. All the shots are unprocessed, out-of-camera images, but all of them taken in the camera’s conventional Picture Style color modes because you can’t capture Raws if you switch across to the more effect-like Color filter modes.

As always, you can download the Raws or JPEGs to inspect or run through your preferred processing workflow, to see how they look.

Sample gallery

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About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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Canon EOS R8 II review: new design, major fixes but frustrations remain

Canon updates and upgrades its entry-level full-framer

A three quarter shot of the EOS R8 II with the RF 45mm F1.2 STM lens.Mitchell Clark

The Canon EOS R8 II is an entry-level full-frame mirrorless camera with a 24.2MP CMOS sensor. However, it’s gained in-body image stabilization and a joystick, addressing two of the biggest shortcomings of the original EOS R8.

Key specifications

  • 24.2MP FSI CMOS sensor
  • IBIS up to 7.5EV center/7EV periphery w/ lens coordination
  • Up to 40fps bursts with e-shutter / 6fps mech.
  • 1/2 second pre-capture at 40fps
  • Full-width 4K video from 6K capture at up to 60p
  • 2.36M dot OLED viewfinder (0.7x magnification)
  • Optional accessories including grip extention and XLR-adapter

The EOS R8 II is launching at $1900, around $400 more than the original EOS R8 launched for, which Canon says is staying in its lineup. It’s worth noting that inflation since the original R8’s launch could be expected to push its price up by around $150 if it were launched today (and indeed the MSRP appears to have been adjusted up to that at time of writing), and that the EOS R8 II appears to be a slightly better specced, higher-positioned model, to the extent that we might even believe the claim that the two will be sold alongside one another.

Ultimately, it’s also the least expensive full-frame mirrorless camera Canon’s released with image stabilization by a wide margin, even before you take inflation into account. It’s also the company’s lightest camera in that category.

• September 16: Initial review published
• October 22: Rolling shutter, Image quality, Conclusion and Scoring added

Product photos: Mitchell Clark

What’s new

Image stabilization

The EOS R8 II has essentially the same sensor from its predecessor (itself adopted from the higher-end EOS R6 II), but it’s now stabilized with Canon promising up to 7.5EV of correction in the center with 7EV in the periphery. While those ratings are often optimistic, this should make it a bit easier to get sharper shots in low-light situations, assuming your subject isn’t moving. The EOS R8’s lack of IBIS was something we noted as a compromise in our review of it, so it’s nice to see it included here.

A new look

The EOS R8 II, seen from the front, with the RF 24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM lens attached.Mitchell Clark

Canon briefed that the EOS R8 II takes design cues from the T80 SLR of the 1980s, though its press materials show it alongside the later EOS 650, with which there’s a more obvious family connection (either way it’ll be entertaining if this distinctly subtle homage turned out to be the source of the many rumors of a ‘retro’ Canon body). To our eyes it looks as much like the original Sony a7 as anything in Canon’s own back catalog. Only nicer.

We think it’s a pretty sharp and attractive camera, especially with its EOS R3 / R1 (/Fujifilm GFX 100 II) style grip material and its low-profile viewfinder hump. The black-on black design with small, well-spaced buttons is something of a departure for Canon, but we rather like the miniaturized minimalism of it all.

Updated autofocus and burst improvements

Canon says it’s updated the EOS R8 II’s underlying autofocus algorithms, making them stickier than the ones in the original. It still has person, vehicle and animal recognition, as well as an auto mode, but gains the company’s Register People Priority mode, which lets you train it to recognize specific people and focus on their face above other ones it recognizes in the scene.

Register People Priority Menu
The EOS R8 II has the same register people priority system as the higher-end EOS R6 III, seen here.

While the camera can’t shoot any faster than its predecessor, still capping out at 40fps in e-shutter mode, it can go for substantially longer with its buffer lasting 30% longer when shooting Raw and 58% longer in JPEG. In our tests, this equated to around 78 shots in Raw+JPEG, and 175 shots in JPEG-only, making the burst mode much more usable. The camera also dispenses with Canon’s Raw Burst mode, which produced a non-standard combined file from which you had to select your frames, and that was required for pre-release capture. Pre-capture is now just an item in the menu you can enable.

A host of new video features

While the EOS R8 II has the same top-line video capabilities as its predecessor – it can shoot oversampled 4K at up to 60p with no crop – Canon has added several improvements to make it easier to use. These are features aimed both at beginners, such as the slow-and-quick mode that lets you get slowed-down or sped-up footage at your preferred framerate straight-out-of camera, and video scene modes, as well as more advanced features from cameras like the EOS R6 V, such as fine-grained control over the camera’s auto white balance system, as well as white balance presets that can be assigned to buttons.

Canon EOS R8 II video defocus option screenMitchell Clark

The camera also introduces a new video feature, which lets you press a button to defocus the lens at a predetermined speed, racking to the lens’ closest focusing distance to produce an effect where your subject is slowly (or quickly) pulled out of focus, something that can be difficult to do by hand, especially with stills lenses. The lens will then stay focused to that distance unless you press the AF-On button, which will resume autofocusing. While it’s not quite as advanced as the focus pulling tools that companies like Panasonic build into their cameras, it’s a nice option to add a bit of production value to a video.

How it compares

The market for entry-level full frame cameras is a competitive one, with several capable options. The one most similar to the EOS R8 II is Nikon’s Z5II as it was also designed from the ground up to be a budget option. Both Sony and Panasonic address this part of the market with older models, rather than something directly tailored to it.

In fact Sony now has two older a7 models that sit above and below the price of the R8 Mark II: the 2018-vintage a7 III and the more modern, higher resolution a7 IV. We’re going to include the newer camera here, as its autofocus will be more competitive.

Canon EOS R8 Mark IINikon Z5IISony a7 IVCanon EOS R8
MSRP$1899 body only ($2099 with 24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS)$1850$2499, €2,800, £2,400 (body only)$1499 body only ($1699 with 24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS)
Resolution24.2MP24MP32.7MP24.2MP
Image stabilizationSensor-shiftSensor-shiftSensor-shiftNo
AF joystickYesYesYesNo
Image stabilization rating (CIPA)7.5 (with IS lens)7.55.5N/A
Continuous drive, FPS6 fps (Mech)
40 fps (E-shutter)
14 fps (Mech)
30 fps (E-shutter, JPEG only)
10 fps (Mech)
10 fps (E-shutter)
6 fps (Mech)
40 fps (E-shutter)
Pre-capture0.5sec JPEG/HEIF/RawUp to 1 sec JPEG onlyNone0.5 Raw Burst
Max shutter speed1/40001/80001/80001/4000
EVF resolution
(magnification)
2.36M dots
(0.7x mag)
3.68M dots
(0.8x mag)
3.68M dots
(0.78x mag)
2.36M dots
(0.7x mag)
Rear screen3″, 1.62M dot
Fully articulated
3.2″, 2.1M dot
Fully articulated
3″, 1.04M dot
Fully articulated
3″, 1.62M dot
Fully articulated
Video modesUp to 4K/60
full-width from 6K
C-Log3/HDR PQ/HLG
Up to 4K/30 full-width from 6K
Up to 4K/60 1.5x crop
N-Log/HLG/N-Raw
Up to 4K/30 full-width from 7K
Up to 4K/60 from 1.5x crop
S-Log3/HLG
Up to 4K/60
Full-width from 6K
C-Log3/HDR PQ
Card slots1x UHS-II SD2x UHS-II SD1x CFexpress Type A/UHS-II SD
1x UHS-II SD
1x UHS-II SD
Battery life
LCD/EVF (CIPA)
270/150 shots350/330 shots580/520 shots290/150 shots
Dimensions131 x 90 x 80mm
(5.2 x 3.5 x 3.1″)
134 x 101 x 72mm
(5.3 x 4.0 x 2.8″)
131 x 96 x 80mm
(5.2 x 3.8 x 3.1″)
133 x 86 x 70mm
(5.2 x 3.4 x 2.8″)
Weight546g (19.3oz)700g (24.7oz)659g (23.2oz)461g (16.3oz)

It’s heartening to see just how capable these cameras are, even if their price tags have crept up. The EOS R8 II’s specs are now much more closely matched to those of the Z5II, but its battery life in particular looks underwhelming, especially compared with the big block used by the Sony. The Canon’s video specs are pretty strong and this table can’t capture the likeability of the ergonomics and interface, but its higher price puts it up against some fierce competition.

Body and handling

Despite the significant visual changes, the EOS R8 II’s design is functionally quite similar to that of its predecessor. It winds up being a little heavier and larger, but still feels light and relatively small in the hand (depending, of course, on what lens you have attached). People with larger hands may find their pinkies dangling off the bottom of the camera – Mitchell certainly did – but, as with the RP and R8, Canon will sell a $90 extension grip to solve this issue.

While the design feels like a call-back to the Sony a7, we found the geometric pattern on the rubberized grip reminding us of the very special Bishamon-Tex material Fujifilm uses on some of its GFX cameras.

Controls

Rear view of the Canon EOS R8 II with the Advanced Assist selection screen being displayed.Mitchell Clark

The EOS R8 II has a recognizably plastic construction and feels relatively light, rather than hefty, in the hand. The rubberized grip and thumb rest means it sits quite comfortably in the hand and, while it doesn’t feel overtly rugged, it doesn’t give the sense of being flimsy, either. There’s no flex or rattle and it feels like it strikes a good balance between weight and solidity.

The headline feature of the EOS R8 II is that it now includes an autofocus joystick on the back, which its predecessor lacks. This means you’re no longer limited to using the touchscreen or four-way controller to place your autofocus point, which is, to us, a substantial upgrade to usability.

Beyond the joystick, the camera has Canon’s standard set of controls: there’s a mode dial, dual customizable top-plate control dials (the camera’s only dials, as there’s not one on the rear plate), several customizable buttons on the back, including one that defaults to AF On, a video record button (though you can set the camera to start recording with the shutter button in video mode), and an M-Fn button. By default, the latter lets you access a customizable menu that lets you adjust several parameters using the control dials, including ISO, drive mode, AF mode, white balance, flash exposure compensation, and more.

The EOS R8 II's top plate.Mitchell Clark

All these controls are largely clustered on the right side of the camera, with the left side only having the menu button. This makes it relatively easy to operate with one hand, though we did find the occasional feature that would require you to confirm something with the far-away menu button.

While you can typically operate the camera without diving into the menus, they’re also relatively easily accessible. The EOS R8 II has the customizable “Q” menu – by default, accessed using a button in the center of the four-way controller – which gives you quick access to your most-used settings. The camera’s color-coded full menus will be familiar to anyone who’s used a Canon before, and are fully navigable using touch, the control dials, the four-way controller, or any combination thereof.

The camera no longer has a dedicated switch for going between stills and video mode, separate from the power switch. Instead, they’ve been merged into a three-way switch that moves the camera from being off, to stills, to video. In our experience, it’s very easy to accidentally overshoot stills and wind up in video mode when attempting to turn the camera on, especially if you’re in a hurry.

EVF and display

The EOS R8 II's EVFMitchell Clark

The EOS R8 II has the same 2.36M dot viewfinder as the R8: the same OLED panel used an all cameras that are prioritizing compactness as part of their design. The optics in front of the panel deliver the same 0.7x magnification. Given Canon’s professional DSLR’s viewfinders tended to top-out at 0.76x magnification, this isn’t bad going, and the viewfinder is generally pretty nice to use.

The camera is sensible enough to disable the eye sensor when you flip the rear screen out, so you shouldn’t have problems with the rear screen blacking out if something gets too close to the viewfinder.

Ports

The EOS R8 II's ports.Mitchell Clark

The EOS R8 II has largely the same collection of ports as its predecessor, though there wasn’t much room for improvement. It has headphone and mic sockets for video, microHDMI and USB-C for charging and data transfer (at up to 10Gbps speed).

The camera’s single UHS-II SD card slot has also been relocated from inside the battery compartment to the side of the grip, making it easier to access if the camera is on a tripod.

Battery

The Canon EOS R8 II with its LP-E17 battery pack.Mitchell Clark

The EOS R8’s battery life was the one other area we, and many other reviewers, found lacking. Unfortunately, it’s the one thing Canon hasn’t touched, as the EOS R8 II uses the same 7.5Wh LP-E17 model, and is rated to get 270 shots per charge when using the rear screen and a pretty miserable 150 shots per charge with the viewfinder. These improve to 340 and 220 shots per charge, respectively, in power saving mode, but they’re still pretty low.

CIPA numbers always under-represent how many shots you’re likely to get in real-world usage, with getting double the number being pretty common. Still, those viewfinder figures are likely to mean carrying a second battery or some kind of power bank will be necessary. The use of a small battery was something we criticised on the original R8, and the addition of in-body stabilization only exacerbates the problem.

Image quality

Our test scene is designed to simulate a variety of textures, colors, and detail types you’ll encounter in the real world. It also has two illumination modes, full even light and low directional light, to see the effect of different lighting conditions.

The Canon EOS R8 II has the same sensor as its predecessor, so it’s no surprise that it performs the same, within the tolerances of our test scene. That means it overall has great excellent image quality with high levels of detail and low levels of noise. This remains true as you push into higher ISOs, though the II’s inclusion of IBIS means you’ll be able to improve image quality in some scenarios by using slower shutter speeds to gather more light.

It also performs very similarly to the Nikon Z5II, and both provide pleasing JPEG colors straight-out-of-camera. Whether you prefer the slightly more saturated and sharpened look of the Nikon or Canon’s slightly subtler processing will largely come down to personal preference.

Red autumn leaf on green grass with blurred fallen leaves in the background.
The EOS R8 II produces images with plenty of detail, and pleasing colors.
Canon EOS R8 II | Canon RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM | F1.8 | 1/1250 sec | ISO 100
Richard Butler

Images from the Sony a7 IV, which can be had for similar money these days, have a bit more detail thanks to its higher-resolution sensor. At high ISOs, noise performance is similar, viewed at comparable sizes, and which one has the better JPEG colors will again be a matter of taste, rather than one being objectively superior to the other.

Autofocus

The EOS R8 II has the latest version of Canon’s standard AF system, shared across the majority of its cameras. This offers eight AF point sizes, ranging from the very small “Spot AF” up to “Whole area AF,” where the camera selects a subject based on how near to the center and how near to the camera it is. In between these extremes are three flexible AF zones, which are rectangles whose height and width can be adjusted.

Canon EOS R8 II's AF selection panel in the Q menu
The AF area section of the Q menu, showing the indication to press the “Info” button to turn tracking On or Off. In this screen it’s shown as being On.

Each of these AF areas can be made to track whatever is under them, by pressing the “Info” button when you’re selecting an AF area. It’s worth noting that the display tells you the current setting, not the setting you’ll access by pressing the Info button.

On top of this you have the subject recognition modes: Human, Animals or Vehicles, with an Auto mode that will try to identify any of the subject types it’s been trained to recognize. You can restrict which of these options appears in the menu but, presumably because there are only three subject types, there’s no option to narrow the ‘Auto’ mode down to just selecting the subjects you expect to encounter.

Beyond this, there’s a menu option for telling the camera how it should expect subjects to respond (ie: whether it should refocus on or ignore another subject appearing in front of its current target). This is a simplified version of the system from Canon’s pro sports cameras and lets you easily fine-tune the AF response if its default behavior doesn’t suit your subject.

A man examines a dahlia, lit by evening sunshine and offboard flash
We found the EOS R8 II’s eye detection would reliably work, even when the subject was wearing glasses.

Canon RF 85mm F1.4 L VCM | F4.0 | 1/320sec | ISO 100
Richard Butler

The net result is an easy-to-use and pretty effective AF system that can be adjusted if it’s not giving the results you want. Most of the time we found you could select an AF point size, engage tracking and leave subject recognition turned on. The camera will focus wherever your AF point is, track whatever was under that point and use subject recognition to be more specific, when appropriate, but without getting distracted by recognized subjects away from the AF point, or by false-positives.

Rolling shutter:

ModeRolling shutter rate
Still, single-shot, Raw14.8ms
4K/2416.4ms
4K/6014.8s

One of the few things we encountered that gave us any real concern was that the tracking system (not the subject recognition system) will try to decide what object it thinks you’re trying to capture, and will draw a large box around it, overriding your chosen AF point size and meaning you can’t be specific about the exact point you want it to focus on. It’s worth being aware of this in situations where you want to pinpoint something very specific (one part of a flower, for instance).

For most of our use, in both stills and video, we found the EOS R8 II to be a very effective performer that is quick and easy to use. However, it’s worth noting that some of the less expensive lenses with STM motors can be a little slower and more clunky to focus. 

Video

The EOS R8 II with its screen flipped out and a large shotgun microphone attached to the hotshoe.Mitchell Clark

The EOS R8 II’s base video capabilities remain largely unchanged from its predecessor. It can record full-width 4K video at up to 60p, derived from 6K capture, and includes 10-bit, Log and HDR recording options. It gains “slow-and-fast” modes that will give you slowed-down or sped-up footage straight of of camera, rather than requiring you to adjust a clip’s playback speed to match your playback framerate in post.

It also features headphone and microphone jacks – though their placement means they can occasionally interfere with the screen’s articulation – and a multi-interface hotshoe which you can use to connect Tascam’s 4-channel recorder.

Canon has equipped the camera with a wide array of features, both for those who have never shot video before and more experienced users. For the former, there’s the auto mode that lets you control how blurry the background is (basically letting you adjust aperture without having to know that’s what you’re doing) and scene modes that automatically configure your settings to apply skin smoothing or override the camera’s face detection when you’re holding something up to the lens. (Thankfully, experienced videographers can also enable those settings in the standard video modes while retaining control over exposure, audio levels and more).

The EOS R8 II thankfully also gets Canon’s latest white balance system. Alongside inheriting the fine-grained controls from the EOS R6 V, it lets you set a custom WB without having to take a picture and go into a separate menu.

In our limited use, the autofocus system was reliable, and supports the same subject recognition modes that the camera’s stills mode does. And, as is typical for Canon, you can separate your photo and video settings quite well, even if it is a bit too easy to switch between them now that they’re assigned to the same three-position switch.

Like its predecessor, the EOS R8 II’s rolling shutter is very well-controlled across its modes, meaning you won’t have to worry about skewed lines in all but the fastest camera moves.

In use

The EOS R8 II is a camera that, for the most part, won’t present you with a lot of unpleasant surprises or asterisks. As you’d hope for a camera aimed primarily at new photographers and advanced beginners, it does its job largely without a fuss, without too much friction between you can getting the photo you want. It’s a camera designed with its audience in mind, rather than a more advanced one old enough to be sold at a more accessible price point.

With that said, it’s not like Canon has built the entire UI or menu system from the ground up, so, as with pretty much any camera, there are a few behaviors that may be a bit confusing to both newcomers and more seasoned shooters. Thankfully, the auto mode allows you to shoot in Raw… that is, unless you switch into the “Advanced” mode, which can composite multiple shots together in situations where a subject is backlit, or there’s high contrast.

Canon EOS R8 II Creative Assist Raw-conversion interface
The ‘Creative Assist’ Raw-conversion interface re-names key parameters in outcome-focused terms, such as Brightness and Color Tone, rather than Exposure Compensation and White Balance.
Richard Butler

Outside of that mode, we appreciate Canon’s inclusion of in-camera Raw reprocessing (something that Sony omits in all of its models). However, the fact that there are actually two – a standard mode and one called “Creative Assist” – risks being a touch confusing, though you are able to choose a default.

Both are strangely disconnected from the color filter system. If you want to see what the photo you just took looks like in the camera’s new Positive Filmtone color mode, that’s too bad. Turn off Raw, go back to the part of color section of the menu, switch to the Color Filter mode, and take it again. (The camera doesn’t automatically disable Raw or offer to do it for you when you try to access one of the modes that doesn’t support it, you have to do it manually.)

Canon EOS R8 II Raw image processing interface
The Raw image processing interface uses more standard terminology. It can also be used to generate HEIF files, rather than just JPEGs.
Richard Butler

Canon has thankfully solved the incorrect “Enable” labeling for its AF tracking feature, but you can still find odd little things like that if you hunt for them. For example, it’s still a bit ambiguous as to whether you’re pressing the Info button to “Enable” part detection for car subject recognition, or if you’re turning it off. Still, the EOS R8 II’s menus are far from the most lost in translation that we’ve seen.

They can mostly be navigated using the dials, four-way controller, or touchscreen, though you’ll still occasionally find an area or two that only work with one or two of those options. The video selection menu is one such example, where you have to use the dials or screen to switch between the resolution, frame rate and codec sections. The latter also only has one option, making us wonder why it’s even there. Also, Canon occasionally insists on making you confirm an action by pressing the “Menu” button, turning what could’ve been a one-handed operation into a two-handed one.

We appreciate just how many options you have to customize the controls at your fingertips, using the M-Fn menu, Q menu and buttons. The layout is sensible for beginners – though it might take a second to get used to the fact that you can’t adjust exposure compensation until you’ve begun metering – but once you start figuring out what you want, you can really dive deep into finding the layout that works for you.

Initial impressions

By Richard Butler

The EOS R8 II in hand, seen from the front.
It’s not completely unfair to say there are hints of the original Sony a7 in the R8 II’s basic shape, but it’s also fair to highlight that the design is much more ergonomic.
Mitchell Clark

The EOS R8 II made rather a good first impression on me: the new design is pretty sharp, in an understated kind of way, but without undermining the ergonomics that Canon has carefully refined over multiple generations of camera. Just as with the recent PEN, I’m not a fan of the combined power/stills/video switch, but the rest of the camera feels nice.

You don’t, for a moment, think you’re getting an R6 III-level workhorse, but you’re not paying R6 III money for it. I have large enough hands that I’d definitely consider adding the optional add-on grip extension plate to stop my little finger wrapping under the bottom of the body, but it’s nice to be able to keep the camera small by omitting it, and I wouldn’t consider it an essential.

Inflation means the Mark II looks like a bigger step up than perhaps Canon intended, but the addition of in-body stabilization and an AF joystick mean you get recognizably more camera for your money and one that’s nicer to use, too.

The price essentially brings into line with the list price of Nikon’s Z5II, while also bringing the feature sets much closer to parity. Canon’s features for beginners, inherited from models such as the EOS R50 are arguably a little more powerful and hence welcoming, but they don’t necessarily provide much of a pathway across to taking full control of the camera.

Overall, then, there’s much to like, with the two biggest changes expressly addressing two of the most significant omissions of the Mark 1. However, the addition of IBIS just draws attention to the only major shortcoming that hasn’t been addressed: battery life.

A scene with a rock slab on the left and a blue sky reflected in the Spokane River.
RF24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM @ 34mm | F5.6 | 1/800 sec | ISO 100
Mitchell Clark

Although the R8 II promises a similar battery rating to the R8 when using the rear screen, its EVF rating is a pretty dismal 150 shots per charge. And, even if you factor-in how excessively conservative the CIPA standard numbers can be, a rating well under 200 shots per charge is going to mean having to constantly stay on top of keeping the camera charged, if you try to use it for much beyond occasional snapshots. A second battery or PD-compliant power bank would be worthwhile additions to any R8 II-based kit.

The bigger concerns, though, would be lens options, beyond the kit zoom. Canon, even more effectively than Nikon, has limited the choice of third-party AF lenses for its RF mount, making it essential to check whether the lenses you want to use are available.

A man with curly hair looks askance at something off to the right of the camera. The scene is in low light with a brick wall and a string of lights in the background
With a nice lens, the EOS R8 II can deliver impressive results.

Canon RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM | F1.8 | 1/60 sec | ISO 4000
Richard Butler

This was made very apparent to me when I was using the R8 II. I had access to the RF 35mm F1.8 Macro: a lens whose focus motor (and lack of AF limit switch) gives an unwelcome reminder of what 1990s-style screw-drive lenses were like, in its level of vibration and graunching, every time you half-press the shutter button. Conversely, the 85mm F1.4 VCM’s focus is swift, silent and smooth. Unfortunately, so is the movement of its aperture ring, which to me detracted from the photographic experience enough for it to constantly gnaw at me that it costs as much as this camera does. In both cases the results are excellent, and yet neither are lenses I’d choose to buy, distinctly narrowing my options in two of my favoured focal lengths.

If the lenses you want are available for the R8 II (and that may include adapting old DSLR lenses), then the R8 II is an excellent body for newcomers and first-time full-frame adopters. But, to me, being limited to the lenses Canon will let you have feels especially restrictive at the price-sensitive end of the market. Which is a shame, because the camera’s really rather good.

Conclusion

What we likedThings to consider
• Excellent image quality
• Decently compact body
• Well-placed controls
• Strong feature set, including stabilization, interval shooting…
• AF joystick improves ergonomics
• Simple HDR stills and video shooting
• Solid video feature set
• Relatively small viewfinder
• Modest battery life
• Odd handling of, and restrictions around color modes
• Tightly controlled lens system

Anyone who’s used a Canon ILC won’t be surprised to find the EOS R8 II is a more-than-competent camera. Canon has been the world’s biggest camera maker for decades and that hasn’t happened by chance. Making mainstream cameras is something the company is extremely good at.

The EOS R8 II has a strong all-round feature set, pleasant ergonomics and delivers excellent stills and video. It addresses two of the biggest criticisms we had of the original R8: the absence of in-body stabilization and an AF joystick. Both additions are appreciable improvements to the new camera. Overall, it’s hard to call out major omissions that would limit a photographer’s growth.

The camera’s controls and menus are as easy to learn as those of any other companies, though that means they’ll still be a bit daunting to learn if this is your first camera. Trying to think as a beginner, it’s hard to see how the camera’s simplified, outcome-orientated Creative Assist modes and Raw processing interface would actually help you learn the camera. Likewise it feels like an odd choice to make the more exuberant color modes JPEG-only and unavailable for experimentation through the Raw conversion process: finding yourself stuck with a good photo with a poorly-chosen color response and having no way to undo it can be a really off-putting experience.

Man in aviator sunglasses and a striped orange shirt leaning toward orange dahlias in a garden.
Canon RF85mm F1.4L VCM | F8.0 | 1/125 sec | ISO 400
Richard Butler

At its heart, though, the EOS R8 II is an awful lot of camera, for a (by contemporary standards) pretty sensible price. The somewhat small viewfinder and need to add a grip extension if you have larger hands feel like minor gripes, all things considered.

For us, though, Canon’s aggressive control over its lens system is most acutely felt at the lower cost end of its lineup. Many EOS R8 II buyers are unlikely to be comfortable with the idea of buying lenses that cost significantly more than the body, which risks leaving them with relatively few choices. Or with the kinds of kit zooms and low-cost teles that are rarely the stuff of photographic inspiration.

Pink and yellow rose in bloom with green leaves and buds in a garden.
Canon RF45mm F1.2 STM | F1.6 | 1/4000 sec | ISO 100
Mitchell Clark

This is a personal choice, of course: if the RF-mount lenses you want are available, then the EOS R8 II is a very pleasant and capable camera, for the money. But it’s enough of a limitation that this and the rather limited battery life make it difficult for us to give a Gold award, especially given how good the competition is.

Scoring

Build quality
8.8 out of 10
Ergonomics & handling
9.0 out of 10
Features
9.0 out of 10
Metering & focus accuracy
8.9 out of 10
Image quality (raw)
9.3 out of 10
Image quality (jpeg)
8.8 out of 10
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Overall score

89%
Scores reflect competition at the time of release; cross-year comparisons may be misleading

Expert summary

The EOS R8 Mark II is a remarkably capable camera for the price: adding most of the key features missing from its predecessor. It's pleasant to use and leaves plenty of room to grow into.

Good for:

A wide range of photography Beginners looking for great IQ Casual action shooters and videographers

Not so good for:

Long shoots Specific, more challenging tasks Users looking to explore color modes

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Canon EOS R8 II specifications

Quick Specs

Body Type
SLR-style mirrorless
Effective pixels
24.2 megapixels
Sensor type
CMOS
Lens Mount
Canon RF
LCD
Fully articulated
LCD size
3″
LCD dots
1620000 dots
Shortest exposure time
1/4000 sec
USB – Port 1
USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbit/sec)
Weight
546 g
Max resolution width
6000 px
Max resolution height
4000 pixels
Aspect ratio
1:1, 4:3, 16:9
File format – still (structured)
JPEG, HEIF, RAW
Sensor photo detectors
25.6 megapixels
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CMOS inventor Eric Fossum helps us explain LOFIC

We worked with Prof. Eric Fossum to help explain the latest step forward in sensor design

Black dual-lens camera gimbal with “1-INCH” label, shown in close-up against a blurred background with blue, red, and yellow colors.Mykim Dang

It’s increasingly likely that you’ll have heard the term LOFIC, and some of the excitement around the capability it brings. We spoke to Professor Eric Fossum, inventor of the modern CMOS image sensor, who turns out to have some involvement in the early development of the concept, to explain how it works and what it could mean for cameras in future.

LOFIC stands for Lateral OverFlow Integration Capacitor and is a different way of designing pixel circuitry that allows them to capture more light. Conceptually, it stems from a similar idea to the dual conversion gain sensors we’ve seen over the past 12 years, but the benefits it promises appear even greater.

A drip-fed explanation

Fossum, now a Professor at Dartmouth College, uses the metaphor that capturing light is like collecting rainwater in a series of containers or buckets.

We’re going to slightly complicate the metaphor to encompass the concept of “conversion gain,” which is the relationship between the number of photoelectrons coming from the light-sensitive photodiode in each pixel and the size of the electrical voltage signal that’s then read out (measured in Volts per electron). 

In CMOS sensors, photoelectrons captured in a small bucket (smaller capacitance) give a proportionally bigger signal when read out than the same number would, if captured in a larger bucket (larger capacitance).

Water falls into a small glass vessel, overflowing into a blue glass bowl
Fossum suggests you can demonstrate this metaphor by nesting a shot glass in a large bowl in your kitchen sink. If you pour in enough water to fill the glass, it’ll overflow into the larger bowl. You’ll notice the water level rises quickly in the shot glass and then slowly once it cascades into the bowl.
Abby Ferguson

So a small bucket is well suited to low light (fewer photoelectrons) but you need a much larger one for capturing a lot of light, so that you don’t overfill the bucket.

In a LOFIC sensor, instead of one, we have both a small and a large bucket. The charge from the photodiode starts to collect in the small bucket, but if it exceeds its capacity, it overflows into the second, larger bucket. (Fossum called this “cascaded integration” in an early patent)

When it comes to readout, we measure the small bucket first. Because the charge was captured in a small bucket (with high conversion gain) we get a large signal that overwhelms any other noise that might get added later in the process. This gives us nice clean shadows and low-light images.

In a LOFIC sensor, we can then connect the two buckets together, combining their capacity (so, lower conversion gain) and adding in any overflowed charge. We then read out this combined signal. If we didn’t capture very much light, we can just use the first readout result. But if the small bucket was full, we can then use the second, combined readout, instead, giving us much more capacity for highlights.

Unlike the dual conversion gain system, Fossum points to the key benefit: “you don’t have to choose in advance.” And, as he points out, there’s no reason this system has to be limited to two buckets.

Why it matters

In practice, this means sensors that can tolerate a lot more light. And its implementation in relatively small, high-resolution sensors, suggests that space constraints aren’t a problem, at least not once you can use stacked sensor fabrication.

In the Osmo 4P we’ve seen DJI claim 17 stops of DR, which is an extraordinary number for a Type 1 sensor. This puts its DR on a par with much larger sensors (though doesn’t mean its image quality will match them). In its implementation, you can see how the additional dynamic range can be used.

The 4P’s camera that uses LOFIC technology is the only one that needs to use the new D-Log2 profile: a profile designed to accommodate more dynamic range. Interestingly, the base ISO of D-Log2 (the setting at which it captures maximum DR) appears to be 1600, suggesting that it’s being exposed to capture two additional stops of highlights compared with the ISO 400 base sensitivity of D-Log profile used for the conventional sensors.

This gives an idea of what LOFIC could bring: a choice of greater highlight capture or higher quality captures

However, the D-Log2 mode also lets you expose this same sensor state all the way down to ISO 100: clipping those additional highlights but using more exposure to capture the remaining tones, and thus boosting tonal quality. 

This gives us an idea of what LOFIC could bring to dedicated cameras: a choice of greater highlight capture or higher quality captures with the same highlight cutoff point as existing sensors.

After nearly a decade of sensors getting faster but not really offering improved image quality, LOFIC technology might be the step forward we’ve been waiting for.


Interestingly, Fossum – who is responsible for inventing the active pixel CMOS image sensor that virtually all modern cameras are based on – invented an early version of this concept, but the successors to the company he’d worked for instead concentrated their efforts on the simpler dual conversion gain system. A team at Tohoku University in Sendai, Japan, independently developed LOFIC as we’re now seeing it, citing Fossum’s Micron patent in their LOFIC patent, but proposing a more modern implementation.

About the Author: Richard graduated as a scientist but had a lot more fun writing and shooting for his university magazine. A number of years spent variously as a reporter, writer and editor on science and engineering titles combined his knowledge of science with his interest in images and words. But it was spotting the connections between emission spectra, white balance and all the nonsense he’d taught himself playing around in Photoshop that helped kindle an interest in digital photography. Searching for a camera led to him discovering DPReview and Richard was recruited by Phil Askey in 2007. He’s been combining his love of photography, communication and attention to detail (pedantry?) ever since. He has unusually strong opinions about lenses for the APS-C format.

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